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Game Launch Preparations

Hey Sxerks,

With a new Thief game right around the corner, we thought it would be a good time to update the overall look and navigability of the Wikia. Over the course of the next few weeks, I'm going to be making some changes here and there -- if there's anything I do that you don't like, please let me know or feel free to revert the changes yourselves. If you have any ideas about content or organization in the weeks leading up to the launch, I'd love to hear them and help give you whatever you need.

Thanks! Look forward to working with you.

Mhadick (talk) 22:57, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Keepers' Chapel Issues

Because TheCircle has been having server issues of late, the Keepers' Chapel is not accessible through ordinary means (we can still use the wayback, though). Would it be possible/permissible to create a backup of everything in there? I presume that the wiki would have more stability than an independent site. Fish Preferred (talk) 04:38, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

I'll send a PM on the ttlg to see if it is ok.--Sxerks (talk) 06:07, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, fett(dave johnson) just got back to me via pm and said it was ok. So now it is a matter of figuring out where to put it and what the page names need to be.--Sxerks (talk) 15:20, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Should I start categorizing the images by location, or would that encourage people to use them in a way that does not qualify as fair use under US copyright law? --Fish Preferred (talk) 04:39, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
hmmm, I guess since they are part of the guide, probably should just leave them. They are all currently protected as well so no one should be able to upload a new version and mess up the guide.--Sxerks (talk) 06:05, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
Maybe I could subcategorize them (Guide Baffords Images, Guide Cragscleft Images, etc.) as they are hard to sift through all together. --Fish Preferred (talk) 15:38, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
That would be ok, but the cats would probably be (Keepers Chapel XXXXXX Images) where XXXXXX is the mission.--Sxerks (talk) 15:45, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
Would it be improper to give them the regular image categories, on top of Keepers Chapel XXXXXX Images? Big McLargeHuge (talk) 23:47, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
No reason to over categorize them, they are all still under category:images.--Sxerks (talk) 17:09, February 15, 2014 (UTC)
Not overcategorizing, just making sure they are categorized enough to where they could be found easily for use in an article outside of the walkthroughs. Big McLargeHuge (talk) 04:40, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
I think we would need special permission for that. Unless of course he already authorized the use of his images for other purposes. --Fish Preferred (talk) 05:51, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
well what takes precedence? the fact they are used in fair use from the game, or that they were taken from the game to use in the guide? Not that I think the author would take issue, but what malicious things could we possibly do? Big McLargeHuge (talk) 00:38, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
It always helps to be careful about copywrite issues. Anyhow, since he's given the OK on this project, it seems unlikely for him to insist that they not be used anywhere else. I just think we should err on the side of caution. --Fish Preferred (talk) 05:13, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
These images are small with writing on them and not going to be used in other articles, also no one is going to be searching through a category to find them. They are easy enough to find in the guide.--Sxerks (talk) 17:34, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
Oh, they have writing on them? Okay, then that makes sense. Big McLargeHuge (talk) 19:34, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

The Keepers' Chapel section is now finished. Should the pages be locked/protected now, or should we see if fett wants any changes first? --Fish Preferred (talk) 22:37, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

I'll run the bot to protect them all like I did the images. I doubt he'll have any input, but I'll let him know(or you can, you have an account there now), and we can change anything if necessary later.--Sxerks (talk) 22:47, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

main page change

I was thinking back to my daily calendar idea, still on hiatus I guess, and thought that we could remove the site news blog ( for general main page sprucing up, besides the calendar (wip)), and simply change 'current contest' to 'thief news' or what have you. Big McLargeHuge (talk) 23:45, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

The blog can be replaced with the calendar. there really isn't any thief news so the contest can stay as is.--Sxerks (talk) 17:09, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Edit war

Garrett and mission objectives calling it a river, and Fishpreferred wanting to call it a 'canal' removing the citations of it being called a river. http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Canal,_New_MarketBaggins (talk) 17:10, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

trying to make .gif files

Is there a way to make fraps take videos in .gif format? Or, if not, can you suggest a trustworthy avi to gif converter? Fish Preferred (talk) 15:52, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

A while ago on another wiki one person used "Beneton Movie Gif" with good results. Other than that I really don't know.--Sxerks (talk) 16:47, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Stealth Game Guided Tour

Hey Sxerks, I'm Doug from Wikia's Community Development Team! I'm stopping by to ask you if you'd be interested in participating in a Wikia Guided Tour about Stealth video games! Guided Tours are large written posts that describe and inform users about a certain genre/theme. We choose 3 or so admins of various communities to provide their opinion about the genre as a whole, what makes it great, and why they are fans. These admins then choose a small handful of 'must-play' games of the genre so new players can check out the best of the best.

If you're curious about what the Guided Tour looks like, check out some previous ones Zombies, Horror Games, and Space Opera.

If you'd be interested in being featured in this, please let me know! We are planning for the Tour to go live at the end of the month. Don't hesitate to ask any questions if you have them! Thanks : > TheBlueRogue •(profile)•(talk)•(doug@wikia-inc.com) 18:45, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Sxerks, the Guided Tour is set to go live on Friday, June 27th. Please email me your written portion and your recommended game selection before the end of Friday. Remember, the write up only needs to be 2 to 3 paragraphs, so don't worry about making it an essay. Please let me know if you need more time. Thanks so much for participating : > TheBlueRogue •(profile)•(talk)•(doug@wikia-inc.com) 21:08, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

T3 screenshots

Hey Sxerks, long time no see.

Just a quick note to say I've uploaded a collection of T3 screenshots that I had taken years ago, (many of which found their way into articles I updated) please download it and use it to build the T3 coverage on the Thief Wiki.


Best of luck, Tom Jenkins (Reply) 09:50, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Good to see you again Tom! Big McLargeHuge (talk) 22:11, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Can I use some of these to replace my crude photos of the same things (all credit being attributed to Tom, of course), or should they be made into separate files and the old ones deleted? Fish Preferred (talk) 19:01, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
just upload the ones you can use as a new version, no need to delete anything.--Sxerks (talk) 19:48, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
Fish, I don't need or want any credit for any of the images. Please say you took them yourself if you'd like to! But add them in and improve the sparse T3 coverage on the wiki! Good luck! -- Tom Jenkins (Reply) 09:32, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

What liscencing tag should be used for the rest of these images? Fish Preferred (talk) 21:52, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

If they are from the game "fair use", which is what you normally use unless you personally create it.--Sxerks (talk) 04:35, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
I made a guide to capture screenshots. You moved it into the forum, can you keep it as a page on the main wiki and link to it from somewhere important so contributors can see the guide? -- Tom Jenkins (Reply) 23:23, July 20, 2014 (UTC)
No, it's not an article. Can it be linked somewhere? I don't know, maybe somewhere on the main T1, T2, T3 articles?--Sxerks (talk) 01:51, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations Sxerks on your wiki reaching gold status. It's been a very long run for you, i've never seen a founder stick with his wiki for so long. I honestly mean it when saying that you are a true inspiration to the wikia community. ReichMuskrat15 (talk) 05:17, July 22, 2014 (UTC)

Image Rename Failed

I tried to rename TDS pagan dyanmagic.jpg to TDS pagan magic.jpg because it isn't a picture of Dyan. The move failed, supposedly because TDS pagan magic already existed, which was not the case until I tried the move. I thought I could fix it by replacing one with the other, but that just deleted the original. I'm not sure what to do now. --Fish Preferred (talk) 23:06, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Sometimes it takes time for the image to update from a move or deleted, might have to wait til tomorrow to sort it out.--Sxerks (talk) 00:16, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
if you have the original or it is in Tom's images try to upload it. or if you don't and remember what it looked like we can find a substitute.--Sxerks (talk) 18:03, August 1, 2014 (UTC)
It was Shaman Woodbine casting a spell. By Thehoosh, I think. --Fish Preferred (talk) 23:54, August 1, 2014 (UTC)


Hello! My name is Islam Elshobokshy, and I just noticed your skills creating wiki's, I would like to speak with you about something could you either leave me your e-mail or e-mail me at: islam20088(at)hotmail(dot)com?

That's IF you're not busy with anything, and/or you are willing to help me about something. (Well obviously you need to know what it is I know xD But I don't know if this message is private or not so better talk to you in e-mails or so. If wikia has private messages send me a message here ^^)

Elshobokshy (talk) 20:35, September 28, 2014 (UTC)Elshobokshy

Homepage design

Would you like me to add a visual gallery on the homepage of the Thief Wiki? See here for samples of my work:

If you're interested I could try out the style on an alternate homepage article, so you get an idea. I need not modify the homepage directly.

Wonderfl (Reply) 09:10, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Contributions feedback

Greetings, Is there anything you would like added to the FM:T2_Book_of_Prophecy_-_Schattengilde before we move on to a new FM. Screenshots and such...

Also anything you would like expanded on my blog topic. Screenshots and such...

Jade Emperor (talk) 09:49, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

I'll try to remember to Category first thing. I was thinking that my Maps would be better suited in 'Cat:Map Images' as they are not screenshots. Hmm, they arn't Game Objects either. Never mind, I will follow your lead and continue to put them in screen shots. Jade Emperor (talk) 03:41, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

redirect cleanup

I cleanup my recent redirects but the pages need to be deleted. FM:T2_Kill_Factory_II:_Escape_from_the_Planet_of_the_Robots_-_Sliptip
Jade Emperor (talk) 11:59, September 7, 2018 (UTC)

FM:T2 List redlink research complete

Suggest that any redlinks that cannot be resolved be removed from the list to reduce the 'Wanted Pages category'. The FM page creation tool could be added to FM:t2 List or you could review the redlinks and correct the pagename to desired text.
Jade Emperor (talk) 16:18, September 8, 2018 (UTC)

T2 leading "The " question

Are there any regrets in creating the pagenames with the leading "The "? If so I have the time to rename them while finishing up the T2 cats and listings.

Want me to do the same kind of maintenance on T1, TDS, and TDM, as I have for T2?
Jade Emperor (talk) 13:10, September 13, 2018 (UTC)

re: Contests

Perhaps a half dozen that wouldn't fit in what is listed in the Contest Property listing.
Fan Mission Listing by Type (upgraded)
Thief Contest Collection Thread
Jade Emperor (talk) 03:46, September 14, 2018 (UTC)

cleanup tasks

Please review the redirects for deletions:
pending next wikia update:
FM:T2 Burrick's Head Inn - Yandros
[[FM:T2 Burrick's Head Inn - Yandros/lootlist

Addition maintenance attention would be "Candidates_for_deletion".
Thanks for your patience
Jade Emperor (talk) 15:19, September 15, 2018 (UTC)

Next time Wikia updates the T2 Orphaned pages should be clear except for the pages I marked for deletion. My T2 category and listing editing is over.
Again, thanks for your patience
Jade Emperor (talk) 02:35, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

Properties and wiki game list

I removed t2x and thievery properties as neither was being used. It cleans up the appearance of the Form input with less chance of erroneous ticking of a box.

With the Reboot link prominently displayed in the header; perhaps replace the Menu>Thief Games>reboot listing with a Menu>Thief Games>TDM: The Dark Mod link. Also, 'Thief Gold' to 'TG: Thief Gold' & T3: Deadly Shadows to TDS: Thief Deadly Shadows for consistency.
Jade Emperor (talk) 14:39, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

unused videos

Special:UnusedVideos page has broken link unused videos requiring admin attention.
Jade Emperor (talk) 10:17, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

scurry bot

what kind of things can the scurry bot do, and it is something that I would be able to? ive got some ideas I'd like to try and see what sticks. Big McLargeHuge (talk) 05:41, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

sounds complicated. sure id like to take a look. Big McLargeHuge (talk) 02:52, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Delete my account at this wiki

Jade Emperor (talk) 20:21, October 31, 2018 (UTC)

this is pretty sudden... is everything alright? Big McLargeHuge (talk) 03:16, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

that's kinda weird. and I can't delete accounts.--Sxerks (talk) 21:13, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
kinda weird and then some. my anxiety is kicking back up and i cant shake that somehow this is my fault... likely irrational, i know Big McLargeHuge (talk) 10:27, November 5, 2018 (UTC)


I had a BLOG you deleted and I asked the wrong person for it back. I don't want it's duplicate anymore, keep up the good work and sorry. SpecialOperationsTrooper (talk) 17:34, July 2, 2019 (UTC)

Re: sound files

The sound files were stored in RES\snd.crf for both games. I changed the file extension to ZIP, and the sounds became accessible. They are WAV, but I can convert them to OGG (this is how they are uploaded on, for example, Elder Scrolls Wiki and Call of Duty Wiki).

If you would like an example, here is a link to the OGGs for the ape1 folder for Thief Gold: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1noHHm5D8xvMrdAzREfLgwV4CluNT00uu?usp=sharing

Should I upload the OGGs? Piotrusp98 (talk) 01:03, September 28, 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough. Would just the quotes at the top of each character's page be ok? Piotrusp98 (talk) 02:07, September 29, 2020 (UTC)

copyright issues

I doubt we will have any copyright issues if things aren't automated. I cant tell you how many T2 FMs are using ripped assets from TDS. Big McLargeHuge (talk) 07:12, September 30, 2020 (UTC)

user editing rights

I've opted to make edits only for logged in users until our vandals get bored. Big McLargeHuge (talk) 15:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)


Hey, I think I found an old sign of yours on 2b2t. https://i.imgur.com/pgH7yrD.jpeg (sign under the left torch). Am I the first one to contact you from the sign? Hasan987 (talk) 04:05, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Indestructible Arrow

Since page https://thief.fandom.com/wiki/Guide:Keepers_Chapel/Thief_-_The_Metal_Age/Ambush!_Secrets is under protection, I want to write it here, so someone could correct it. No, the Indestructible Arrow will not disappear if you change to a different weapon. It still will be in your inventory, between Rope Arrows and Noisemaker Arrows, just press / Slash (weapon change button.

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